Mac creators talk about Jobs, OS X at MacHack "After his company was approached by Apple to write documentation in a deal that fell through, Woz made an offer for Raskin's company and moved all of its employees over in 1978. Raskin worked on the Apple II and Apple III, but felt that these weren't products that would have a long life. Raskin said that he told Steve Jobs that he wanted to create a computer that started with the user and would support the user. Raskin claims that Jobs said the idea was the stupidest thing he had ever heard. After working on Jobs, the Macintosh project -- called bicycle for some time -- was born."